Comments on: A New Breed of Democrats http://www.cato-unbound.org/2006/10/13/markos-moulitsas/a-new-breed-of-democrats/ Big Ideas for a Better World Sat, 22 Nov 2008 11:36:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Freedom Democrats http://www.cato-unbound.org/2006/10/13/markos-moulitsas/a-new-breed-of-democrats/#comment-5801 Freedom Democrats Sat, 21 Oct 2006 20:16:22 +0000 http://www.cato-unbound.org/?p=308#comment-5801 <strong>Libertarian Egalitarianism: Myth or Reality?</strong> Bruce McQuain responds to my post that questioned his earlier statement that libertarianism and egalitarianism are not compatible. All sparked by the discussion on libertarian Democrats from Markos. Got all that? Good. Moving first to his main point: Libertarian Egalitarianism: Myth or Reality?

Bruce McQuain responds to my post that questioned his earlier statement that libertarianism and egalitarianism are not compatible. All sparked by the discussion on libertarian Democrats from Markos. Got all that? Good. Moving first to his main point:

]]> By: A Second Hand Conjecture » Voting As A Commodity http://www.cato-unbound.org/2006/10/13/markos-moulitsas/a-new-breed-of-democrats/#comment-5724 A Second Hand Conjecture » Voting As A Commodity Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:41:44 +0000 http://www.cato-unbound.org/?p=308#comment-5724 [...] There is much exortation from Democrats and the Left to join them this November in vanquishing the Republican majority, and from Republicians and the Right for their supporters not to stay home when said vanquishing begins. It occurs to me that what the severely political set is missing about the average voter is that, to these voters, the franchise has a value. If you contemplate a person’s vote as a sort of commodity one that can only be sold in the political market,* you may recognize that in order for someone to part with that vote, their minimum price must be met. [...] [...] There is much exortation from Democrats and the Left to join them this November in vanquishing the Republican majority, and from Republicians and the Right for their supporters not to stay home when said vanquishing begins. It occurs to me that what the severely political set is missing about the average voter is that, to these voters, the franchise has a value. If you contemplate a person’s vote as a sort of commodity one that can only be sold in the political market,* you may recognize that in order for someone to part with that vote, their minimum price must be met. [...]

]]> By: Virginia Libertarian » Blog Archive » A New Breed of Democrats http://www.cato-unbound.org/2006/10/13/markos-moulitsas/a-new-breed-of-democrats/#comment-5679 Virginia Libertarian » Blog Archive » A New Breed of Democrats Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:50:00 +0000 http://www.cato-unbound.org/?p=308#comment-5679 [...] Cato Unbound -» Blog Archive -» A New Breed of Democrats So all those libertarians seeking some pandering, too bad. This isn’t about you. It’s about us. Now libertarians have a choice - continue to be taken for granted and pandered to inside a Republican Party hostile to just about everything important to libertarians, or help fuel the libertarian left. Of course, they can vote big “L” Libertarian or sit elections out. But if they want to have a real effect on the political process, the two major parties are pretty much it. And, fact is, one party is moving closer to traditional libertarian principles while the other is moving away from them.In the short term, libertarians should vote Democratic simply because divided government is in everyone’s interests. A good dose of gridlock will slow Bush’s insatiable appetite for ever-growing, deficit-devouring big government. Mid-term, a Democratic trifecta (White House and Congress) would help reverse many of Bush’s worst excesses. But 10 to 15 years down the road, libertarians will hopefully have better reasons to move into the “D” column. [...] [...] Cato Unbound -» Blog Archive -» A New Breed of Democrats So all those libertarians seeking some pandering, too bad. This isn’t about you. It’s about us. Now libertarians have a choice - continue to be taken for granted and pandered to inside a Republican Party hostile to just about everything important to libertarians, or help fuel the libertarian left. Of course, they can vote big “L” Libertarian or sit elections out. But if they want to have a real effect on the political process, the two major parties are pretty much it. And, fact is, one party is moving closer to traditional libertarian principles while the other is moving away from them.In the short term, libertarians should vote Democratic simply because divided government is in everyone’s interests. A good dose of gridlock will slow Bush’s insatiable appetite for ever-growing, deficit-devouring big government. Mid-term, a Democratic trifecta (White House and Congress) would help reverse many of Bush’s worst excesses. But 10 to 15 years down the road, libertarians will hopefully have better reasons to move into the “D” column. [...]

]]> By: Inactivist http://www.cato-unbound.org/2006/10/13/markos-moulitsas/a-new-breed-of-democrats/#comment-5657 Inactivist Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:58:39 +0000 http://www.cato-unbound.org/?p=308#comment-5657 <strong>Pragmatism and "libertarian Democrats"; the blogs continue to discuss</strong> McQ, is weighing on the More From Kos on Libertarian Democrats at Cato Unbound (which more from Kos is here). Unsurprisingly, McQ isn't buying Kos's arguments, and for that matter, Logan Ferree at Freedom Democrats isn't too amused with Kos, eit... Pragmatism and “libertarian Democrats”; the blogs continue to discuss

McQ, is weighing on the More From Kos on Libertarian Democrats at Cato Unbound (which more from Kos is here). Unsurprisingly, McQ isn’t buying Kos’s arguments, and for that matter, Logan Ferree at Freedom Democrats isn’t too amused with Kos, eit…

]]> By: a dude somewhere… » Blog Archive » Fuck you! http://www.cato-unbound.org/2006/10/13/markos-moulitsas/a-new-breed-of-democrats/#comment-5596 a dude somewhere… » Blog Archive » Fuck you! Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:07:42 +0000 http://www.cato-unbound.org/?p=308#comment-5596 [...] There’s been a lot of back-and-forth over libertarian Democrats. I’ve said it before. I’ll say it again. The West doesn’t have a libertarian streak. It has a “f*ck you” streak. It’s the streak that gives us the people in bars who hate their boss for telling ‘em what to do, their union for taking part of their paycheck, the government for taking part of their paycheck, the church for judging ‘em, the schools for telling their kids what to think, and on and on and on. [via leftinthewest ] [...] [...] There’s been a lot of back-and-forth over libertarian Democrats. I’ve said it before. I’ll say it again. The West doesn’t have a libertarian streak. It has a “f*ck you” streak. It’s the streak that gives us the people in bars who hate their boss for telling ‘em what to do, their union for taking part of their paycheck, the government for taking part of their paycheck, the church for judging ‘em, the schools for telling their kids what to think, and on and on and on. [via leftinthewest ] [...]

]]> By: Homeland Stupidity Voter’s Guide - Homeland Stupidity http://www.cato-unbound.org/2006/10/13/markos-moulitsas/a-new-breed-of-democrats/#comment-5561 Homeland Stupidity Voter’s Guide - Homeland Stupidity Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:35:21 +0000 http://www.cato-unbound.org/?p=308#comment-5561 [...] The fact is, there is a new breed of libertarian-flavored Democrats that is emerging on the scene. They are no more traditionally libertarian than I am. We don’t advocate the elimination of safety-net programs or the abolition of publicly funded education or any of the more extreme manifestations of libertarianism. We don’t think that “corporations derive their power from government,” hence less regulation will magically make corporations respect my individual liberties (a notion I find patently ridiculous). We are Democrats, after all. Yet we Democrats are also struggling to find a coherent philosophy in a world where globalization has made many of its core precepts increasingly archaic. — Markos Moulitsas [...] [...] The fact is, there is a new breed of libertarian-flavored Democrats that is emerging on the scene. They are no more traditionally libertarian than I am. We don’t advocate the elimination of safety-net programs or the abolition of publicly funded education or any of the more extreme manifestations of libertarianism. We don’t think that “corporations derive their power from government,” hence less regulation will magically make corporations respect my individual liberties (a notion I find patently ridiculous). We are Democrats, after all. Yet we Democrats are also struggling to find a coherent philosophy in a world where globalization has made many of its core precepts increasingly archaic. — Markos Moulitsas [...]

]]> By: O’DonnellWeb - This is not a homeschooling blog » Blog Archive » links for 2006-10-13 http://www.cato-unbound.org/2006/10/13/markos-moulitsas/a-new-breed-of-democrats/#comment-5457 O’DonnellWeb - This is not a homeschooling blog » Blog Archive » links for 2006-10-13 Fri, 13 Oct 2006 23:28:51 +0000 http://www.cato-unbound.org/?p=308#comment-5457 [...] Cato Unbound » Blog Archive » A New Breed of Democrats Kos making the pitch to libertarians again. I don’t totaly disgree with him. (tags: politics) [...] [...] Cato Unbound » Blog Archive » A New Breed of Democrats Kos making the pitch to libertarians again. I don’t totaly disgree with him. (tags: politics) [...]

]]> By: Left in the West » Blog Archive » “F*ck You” Democrats http://www.cato-unbound.org/2006/10/13/markos-moulitsas/a-new-breed-of-democrats/#comment-5455 Left in the West » Blog Archive » “F*ck You” Democrats Fri, 13 Oct 2006 22:33:17 +0000 http://www.cato-unbound.org/?p=308#comment-5455 [...] There’s been a lot of back-and-forth over libertarian Democrats. I’ve said it before. I’ll say it again. The West doesn’t have a libertarian streak. It has a “f*ck you” streak. It’s the streak that gives us the people in bars who hate their boss for telling ‘em what to do, their union for taking part of their paycheck, the government for taking part of their paycheck, the church for judging ‘em, the schools for telling their kids what to think, and on and on and on. [...] [...] There’s been a lot of back-and-forth over libertarian Democrats. I’ve said it before. I’ll say it again. The West doesn’t have a libertarian streak. It has a “f*ck you” streak. It’s the streak that gives us the people in bars who hate their boss for telling ‘em what to do, their union for taking part of their paycheck, the government for taking part of their paycheck, the church for judging ‘em, the schools for telling their kids what to think, and on and on and on. [...]

]]> By: SalJournal.com Blogs » Blog Archive » Libertarion Democrats Part III http://www.cato-unbound.org/2006/10/13/markos-moulitsas/a-new-breed-of-democrats/#comment-5454 SalJournal.com Blogs » Blog Archive » Libertarion Democrats Part III Fri, 13 Oct 2006 22:21:57 +0000 http://www.cato-unbound.org/?p=308#comment-5454 [...] Markos Moulitsas, founder of Daily Kos has a new article up discussing his view of Libertarianism within the Democratic Party. It’s a followup to this essay and this blog article. [...] [...] Markos Moulitsas, founder of Daily Kos has a new article up discussing his view of Libertarianism within the Democratic Party. It’s a followup to this essay and this blog article. [...]

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